tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post1910457180254981121..comments2023-10-19T06:59:20.135-07:00Comments on Kishkushim خربطات קישקושים: Go InAmoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-32617604831890134572009-01-06T17:46:00.000-08:002009-01-06T17:46:00.000-08:00all hamas has to do is survive and it will claim v...all hamas has to do is survive and it will claim victory abd be more popular than ever. the peace process never really existed without international law being applied. now the spot light is shining on israel/palestine instead of iraq and the pressure on israel will be greater than ever .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-12864458722612269522009-01-06T16:45:00.000-08:002009-01-06T16:45:00.000-08:00The Georgia analogy makes no sense to me. There it...<I>The Georgia analogy makes no sense to me. There it was a case of two states' armies fighting one another.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, the analogy is not perfect. But an analogy in which the source and target are identical is useless.<BR/><BR/>This is what I had in mind:<BR/><BR/>1. Russia did not need to achieve regime change immediately to reach its goals in the Georgian conflict. Israel likewise does not need to "bring down Hamas" in order to claim victory.<BR/><BR/>2. Russia faced severe international criticism during the fighting in Georgia; this criticism has had no discernible effect on Russia's standing. If anything, the Georgians today look stupid for having provoked the Russians and having brought disaster upon themselves. One could conceive of a similar outcome to Israel's operation in Gaza.Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-45921316061513455582009-01-06T15:02:00.000-08:002009-01-06T15:02:00.000-08:00The Georgia analogy makes no sense to me. There it...The Georgia analogy makes no sense to me. There it was a case of two states' armies fighting one another. Yes, with a massive asymmetry in capabilities, but still conventional warfare.<BR/><BR/>I just don't see the parallel that the post attempts to draw.MSShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199636437911986505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-64390393419015721702009-01-06T02:05:00.000-08:002009-01-06T02:05:00.000-08:00the UN approved the establishment of israel but it...the UN approved the establishment of israel but it didn't approve the way the jews ethnic cleansed over 800 000 palestinian and turned them into refugees.the UN resolutions also demanded that the palestinians return to their homes which israel ignored.israel has the worst record when it comes to UN resolutions.the UN help establish the zionist claim but then like a spoilt aggrogant child israel wanted it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-5101632165127402352009-01-05T22:25:00.000-08:002009-01-05T22:25:00.000-08:00ruth you must be a israeli with your racist views ...ruth you must be a israeli with your racist views on the arabs. <BR/>do the jews of toronto open money lending shops .<BR/>israel is totally dependant on the USA for its survival.without the aid from america the cost of living in israel will be unaffordable . mass migration would follow and the whole zionist enterprise will collapse.all the rich arab countries have to do is make the US stop giving aid . they have this ability at this moment for they aready own 15% of the US economy.all they have to do is to sell it off all at once and its game over for israel and its US backers.of cause the arabs will suffer but i think in the long run they could bare it with the oil wealth that they have.<BR/>the green car [electric car] is already here and the oil/car companies killed it off.so don't count on a green car to save israel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-33047154518719074912009-01-05T22:05:00.000-08:002009-01-05T22:05:00.000-08:00if the palestinians were as half as ruthless as th...if the palestinians were as half as ruthless as the zionist and half as organised they would have had their mini state years ago. and most probally had the US as a maxi state as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-80625859457166566792009-01-05T21:21:00.000-08:002009-01-05T21:21:00.000-08:00in ten years the arabs will have enough wealth and...in ten years the arabs will have enough wealth and influence to bankrupt the israelis without firering a shot.<BR/><BR/>You too should go and read a little. In your case I recommend the Human Development Index compiled by the UN. Check it out! See the rankings for arab countries and weep. I also recommend a report by a group of arab intellectuals on the sorry state of research and development in Arab countries. Opening shwarma shops in the West does not exctly qualify as influence. That is what the arabs do in Toronto for instance. AS for money from oil, well besides having 20 wives and building gaudy palaces what have the Saudis done exactly?<BR/>Israel is working on developing a green car, so who needs oil?<BR/>Hey for all we know in 10 years, there will be peace.ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601456840063645340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-24295800462199189882009-01-05T21:08:00.000-08:002009-01-05T21:08:00.000-08:00Hugh,Your profund ignorance of the situation is em...Hugh,<BR/>Your profund ignorance of the situation is embarassing. I feel your stupidity. I would not be commenting on this blog if I were you.<BR/>Go read a history book!ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601456840063645340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-1463972577606077022009-01-05T18:19:00.000-08:002009-01-05T18:19:00.000-08:00That was pretty funny, Ariel.That was pretty funny, Ariel.Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-51746267870062062082009-01-05T17:45:00.000-08:002009-01-05T17:45:00.000-08:00I fear that in future, Israel will have lost many ...<I>I fear that in future, Israel will have lost many moderate supporters, and when things get worse as they will, these supporters will not come to Israel's aid as they did in the second World war.</I><BR/><BR/>Israel did not exist during World War II, and no one came to the rescue of Europe's Jews.<BR/><BR/><I> In short, Israel is writing it's own epitaph and threatening the safety of the free world by this lunacy.</I><BR/><BR/>Rank hyperbole. If Europe, for instance, actually believed this, maybe it would try to do something useful, like offer Israel some kind of real security guarantee (perhaps membership in NATO or the EU).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-74273720224863993422009-01-05T05:32:00.000-08:002009-01-05T05:32:00.000-08:00israels moral compass is so broken its amazing the...israels moral compass is so broken its amazing they can find the way home. maybe thats why they are stealing someone elses home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-87630759241157877812009-01-05T02:34:00.000-08:002009-01-05T02:34:00.000-08:00Israel has launched a futile offensive against a d...Israel has launched a futile offensive against a democratically elected government Hamas, who would never had been elected had Israel honoured the roadmap to peace. It's current alibi for this offensive? The terror of home made rockets sent as a defiant gesture to the blockaded imprisoned Palestinians in Gaza.<BR/>The result? the birth of yet more suicide bombers and the upsurge of Al Quaeda and Iran.<BR/>To mount this offensive before US President elect Barack Obama takes office, shows a gross disrespect for the International Community, and the admission of the growing bankruptcy of their settlement policies.<BR/>There is a risk to the greater world. The mad terror state of Iran represents the biggest threat to world peace, yet this assault on Gaza will result in Iran justifiying it's role as freedom fighter for a cause that the majority of Arabs do not support.<BR/>End the killing now and allow the United Nations, (imperfect as they are) to intervene.<BR/>Peace can be obtained, but Israel has to respect the right to self determination of the Palestinians in the very same way that the International Community allowed the Jews to establish the state of Israel.<BR/>I fear that in future, Israel will have lost many moderate supporters, and when things get worse as they will, these supporters will not come to Israel's aid as they did in the second World war.<BR/>In short, Israel is writing it's own epitaph and threatening the safety of the free world by this lunacy.<BR/><BR/>When World war three starts, it will be because of this conflict in the Middle East, there are no winners, only losers, and I have no wish to have my children's right to life threatened by either muslim extremists or Zionist extremists.<BR/>Go to the negotiating table now.Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03708522193390610897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-81444680978981408822009-01-04T23:26:00.000-08:002009-01-04T23:26:00.000-08:00the reason why a article about israel generates 10...the reason why a article about israel generates 1000s of comments is people are more informed in this digital age. the propaganda war which israel easily won for the last 60 years is now even.<BR/>its all down hill for the zionist because of the digitial age and the arab oil reserves.in ten years the arabs will have enough wealth and influence to bankrupt the israelis without firering a shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-89049614549987620562009-01-04T16:38:00.000-08:002009-01-04T16:38:00.000-08:00ILLEGALLY-IllegalThe war of words. I love the sema...ILLEGALLY-Illegal<BR/>The war of words. <BR/>I love the semantics of the I/P conflict!<BR/>What is it about the use of the word "illegal" and the pro Palestinian crowd? Are they all experts in international law? A favorite is the "illegal occupation". So sometimes occupation can be legal? When? Where? <BR/>Another great gem :Israel's illegal and immoral founding. I thought the UN approved the establishment of Israel. Isn't that all legit then?<BR/>The twin brother of "illegal" is "criminal". Its cousin is "immoral". Most repeated sentence on CIF: The illegal, criminal, and immoral Israel flouting international law.<BR/>Never mind all the nazi and holocauste imagery. That's a whole other kettle.<BR/>I still don't understand why an article on Israel generates up to 1000 comments, most of them negative obsessive and repetitive while any other subject has a maximum of 20 comments unless it is about an up to the minute dramatic event. <BR/>Jews are news, Ok. But what else? <BR/>I read Israeli blogs everyday crisis or not and they are mostly ignored by the ProPalestinian crowd but as soon as there is something going on they all show up to spank,teach,and moralize. <BR/>Now that the West has huge numbers <BR/>of muslims, the western audiences are adopting the rejectionist language that has always existed in the Arab world but was largely confined to a fringe group in the West. Remember Vanessa Redgrave?<BR/>Another thing I noticed is the reversal of roles when presenting talking points to the media. Now anything an Israeli says is a lie while a fact uttered by a palestinian becomes gospel. Numbers, stastistics are accepted as fact without checking for their veracity. Let me be racist for a moment here: Arabs are the greatest embellishers of facts. <BR/>DON'T PEOPLE KNOW THAT?ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601456840063645340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-65090124041416678242009-01-04T12:47:00.000-08:002009-01-04T12:47:00.000-08:00israel may have given gaza back ,but its ILLEGAL s...israel may have given gaza back ,but its ILLEGAL settlement policies in the west bank are continuing. israel has now ILLEGALLY turned gaza into a prison and is starving the people of gaza.israel has ILLEGALLY bombed the palestinians constantly for 60 years. gazans have become a captive people totally dependant on the UN to survive because of the brutal theiving policies of israel. and then you wonder why hamas fires rockets. israelis suffer from some sort of tunnel vision where only the arab crimes count.the rocket hamas fires into israel is a response to these brutal oppressive policies. these attacks will only weaken arab moderates while the radicals become more popular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-21277158813222745162009-01-04T00:40:00.000-08:002009-01-04T00:40:00.000-08:00Aardvark EF-111B said... why don't Israel follo...<EM> Aardvark EF-111B said...<BR/><BR/> why don't Israel follow the same lebanon senario in Gazza<BR/><BR/> 1/ bombardment 4 month<BR/> 2/ limited land operation to cut gaza cities from one another</EM><BR/><BR/>Looks, like they are acting according to your script, ef-111b. Gaza is split into several sections now.Nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952955021226297401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-14929144754807111722009-01-04T00:31:00.001-08:002009-01-04T00:31:00.001-08:00If Palistinians want Israel to stop bombing them, ...If Palistinians want Israel to stop bombing them, they should stop firing rockets into Israel. Israel gave Gaza back to the Palistinians, but the Palistinians continue to attack Israel. It is only logical for Israel to protect herself. Israel is willing to live with her Arab neighbors in peace, but Arabs are not willing to let Israel exist. Palistinians need to stop complaining about the measures they have forced Israel to take; if the peole of Gaza don't want to be bombed, they should stop their attacks on Israel.Sue Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05847034043568945509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-84618333869086154322009-01-04T00:31:00.000-08:002009-01-04T00:31:00.000-08:00If Palistinians want Israel to stop bombing them, ...If Palistinians want Israel to stop bombing them, they should stop firing rockets into Israel. Israel gave Gaza back to the Palistinians, but the Palistinians continue to attack Israel. It is only logical for Israel to protect herself. Israel is willing to live with her Arab neighbors in peace, but Arabs are not willing to let Israel exist. Palistinians need to stop complaining about the measures they have forced Israel to take; if the peole of Gaza don't want to be bombed, they should stop their attacks on Israel.Sue Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05847034043568945509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-49331514265740116542009-01-04T00:26:00.000-08:002009-01-04T00:26:00.000-08:00jee, i alway thought it was israel who made refugg...jee, i alway thought it was israel who made refuggees out of the palestinians and stole their lands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-85379523113900837032009-01-03T22:15:00.000-08:002009-01-03T22:15:00.000-08:00More like why should Israel have to clean up Egypt...More like why should Israel have to clean up Egypt's mess. Egypt occupied Gaza until 1967 and Hamas is an extension of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.<BR/><BR/>-EllieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-84514224071359255182009-01-03T07:02:00.000-08:002009-01-03T07:02:00.000-08:00hey elle,why should egypt have to clean up israels...hey elle,<BR/>why should egypt have to clean up israels' mess.<BR/>egypt is not like israel when it come to stealing a country.<BR/>you must be israeli, cause only israelis have such arrogance. <BR/> the only way to fix this problem is the address the crime committed by israel in 1948.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-72117509017752754592009-01-03T03:25:00.000-08:002009-01-03T03:25:00.000-08:00the bombing of gaza has made many more people arou...the bombing of gaza has made many more people around the world look hard at the brutal ,racist,oppressive,illegal, inhumane policies of israel.<BR/>these policies will make hamas so much more stronger and israel weaker in the end.<BR/>it doesn't matter if fatah or hamas rule the palestinians. what israel is fighting are the 'just demands' of the palestinian people. the rest is a smoke screen so israel can illegally settle arab land.<BR/>.................Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-61869009657543845402009-01-03T01:20:00.000-08:002009-01-03T01:20:00.000-08:00Occupation of Gaza should not and is not going to ...Occupation of Gaza should not and is not going to happen. <BR/><BR/>I have to agree with Nobody here that Israel needs to move this onto Egypt's plate. The rest of the world is starting to open their eyes that Gaza also shares a border with Egypt. We have to thank Nasrallah for bringing this to the Arabs' attention. <BR/><BR/>Egypt will never annex Gaza, but they should be made to be responsible for it.<BR/><BR/>-EllieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-75328745074733158862009-01-02T19:52:00.000-08:002009-01-02T19:52:00.000-08:00could someone please answer two questions for me.1...could someone please answer two questions for me.<BR/>1. who are the palestinians.<BR/>2. where did the palestinians come from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-42807242299397429672009-01-02T15:59:00.000-08:002009-01-02T15:59:00.000-08:00The thing about Russia is that on one hand Russian...The thing about Russia is that on one hand Russians don't care so much for what Europe is thinking about them because they supply it with gas and oil. As a matter of fact there was a certain miscalculation on their part in this sense, because the war has triggered capital flight from Russia. Russia's economic woes were exacerbated by the global crisis by they actually started in the wake of the war with Georgia. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand Russians are seeking such confrontations or at least don't try to avoid them. Russians like to keep their relations with the West in a state of controlled tension because they associate it with being back into business, for them it's like regaining the status of global power they lost after the Soviet Union was gone. Though it looks like they have toned down their rhetoric now as it's finally dawning on them how deeply they are dependent on the West.Nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952955021226297401noreply@blogger.com