tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post3245032775087939933..comments2023-10-19T06:59:20.135-07:00Comments on Kishkushim خربطات קישקושים: Lame Ducking ItAmoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-19512821100836559382008-01-27T20:47:00.000-08:002008-01-27T20:47:00.000-08:00Peggy and Danny - I understood that this what Pegg...Peggy and Danny - I understood that this what Peggy's original comment was saying. But I was trying to point out that it was not Bush who coined this phrase. In any case, the term "contiguous" or "continuous" in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process has usually been invoked to argue for the removal of settlements. As Canadian Analyst's comment suggests, those arguing for "contiguity" have tended to come from the opposite side of the political spectrum as Bush. I don't think they were necessarily confused about the map.Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-42272886526815630202008-01-27T16:51:00.000-08:002008-01-27T16:51:00.000-08:00Thanks, Danny! That's exactly what I meant. Does...Thanks, Danny! That's exactly what I meant. Does Bush mean to join Gaza with the West bank? How? If not, how will a Palestinian state be "contiguous"? Either the map or the dictionary must be in error. Or Bush. <BR/>Between the three, I prefer to put my trust in the map and the dictionary.<BR/>PeggyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-29125313523601470942008-01-21T10:43:00.000-08:002008-01-21T10:43:00.000-08:00Hi Amos, I think Peggy is pointing out that a stat...Hi Amos, I think Peggy is pointing out that a state with the West bank and Gaza cannot have contiguous boundaries - in this respect it will rather like the original two-state solution the Yishuv accepted in December 1947....<BR/><BR/>Hi Canadian Analyst, before we attack the "received wisdom" we could start by pointing out that, like so many "received wisdoms" on the Middle East, it is in fact a lie. Whilst keeping Ma'ale Adumim et al will mean a narrow waist for "Palestine", it is no narrower than the waist near Netanya for Israel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-6844004250234776412008-01-19T17:03:00.000-08:002008-01-19T17:03:00.000-08:00The "contiguity school" argues that the presence o...The "contiguity school" argues that the presence of Israeli settlements has already made a two-state solution impossible because any future Palestinian state will not be viable because it is not territorially contiguous. I think it's time we begin to question this piece of received wisdom. There are a number of states that practically lack functional contiguity - Norway is one very prominent example, Australia is another. We're in the 21st century. Physical contiguity is not the problem. The problem is access and open trade routes. Under conditions of peace, Palestinians will be able to trade and move within a future Palestinian state, even if they have to transit through Israeli controlled areas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-66496305515703485772008-01-18T07:37:00.000-08:002008-01-18T07:37:00.000-08:00I'm not sure I understand your rhetorical question...I'm not sure I understand your rhetorical question, Peggy. Bush certainly wasn't the first one to speak about a "contiguous" Palestinian state. Condoleezza Rice has been using it in public forums for quite some time now. In any case, the phrase has long been used by people in the pro-Palestinian camp actually.Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-61227839789720236842008-01-16T16:21:00.000-08:002008-01-16T16:21:00.000-08:00Does Bush's statement last week that the Palestine...Does Bush's statement last week that the Palestine needs a state with "contiguous" boundaries show "he means business"? Has the guy ever looked at a map?<BR/>PeggyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com