tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post6389040613158072991..comments2023-10-19T06:59:20.135-07:00Comments on Kishkushim خربطات קישקושים: European Antisemitism: Stupidity, Malevolence, or Both?Amoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-33011740680207689182008-12-29T14:17:00.000-08:002008-12-29T14:17:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-78380635804426819612008-11-07T08:04:00.000-08:002008-11-07T08:04:00.000-08:00Sorry, I forgot to leave a link to Shavit's interv...Sorry, I forgot to leave a link to Shavit's interview of Theodorakis. And now I see that it was in 2004 (not 2003).<BR/><BR/>Article is <A HREF="http://www.isranet.org/DataBank/antisemtism.htm#shavit" REL="nofollow">here</A>.lisagoldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776468289636902408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-55792599569782156932008-11-07T07:58:00.000-08:002008-11-07T07:58:00.000-08:00Hi Amos - Re. Theodorakis: in 2003 he told Ari Sha...Hi Amos - <BR/><BR/>Re. Theodorakis: in 2003 he told Ari Shavit, in an interview that was published in Haaretz, that the Jews were "the root of all evil."<BR/><BR/>Israelis were pretty horrified, of course; Theodorakis's music is very popular here - especially his Ballad of Mathausen (which my parents listened to quite frequently when I was a child).<BR/><BR/>For me, that interview was more evidence than I ever wanted of the anti-Semitism that plagues Europe's so-called Left. Very sad.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/>Lisalisagoldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776468289636902408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-30505801171223215192008-11-06T18:06:00.000-08:002008-11-06T18:06:00.000-08:00Anonymous - I am not sure I understand your commen...Anonymous - I am not sure I understand your comment. Which Israelis can't tell a Democratic from a Republican Jew, and what's at stake exactly?Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-49095514661166448012008-11-06T18:05:00.000-08:002008-11-06T18:05:00.000-08:00Thanks, Yannis, for the background on Avriani. Wha...Thanks, Yannis, for the background on <I>Avriani</I>. What you say is worrisome and illuminating. I didn't realize that Theodorakis was also an antisemite. My parents have some of his records actually, and I enjoyed listening to them when I was a child. <BR/><BR/>Maybe it is not such a big mystery, but how do you explain the virulence of antisemitism (as well as "anti-Zionism") in Greek political discourse?<BR/><BR/>Is it a result of Greece's ties to the Arab countries? Residual Soviet era leftism? Greek Orthodox attitudes? General xenophobia / chauvinism?Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465114506715277544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-85652163471219989222008-11-06T17:11:00.000-08:002008-11-06T17:11:00.000-08:00You might think that Israelis understand better th...You might think that Israelis understand better than, say, Greeks or French people, that there's a difference between Democratic Jews and Republican Jews, but that is often not the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-84239493693344144842008-11-06T03:25:00.000-08:002008-11-06T03:25:00.000-08:00According to this, "Jewish domination" is only inc...According to <A HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034635.html" REL="nofollow">this</A>, "Jewish domination" is only increasing.Nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952955021226297401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24622549.post-70835963709158544612008-11-06T00:16:00.000-08:002008-11-06T00:16:00.000-08:00I agree that there is a strong antisemitic current...I agree that there is a strong antisemitic current in greek public opinion stretching from far right to far left that is hiding behind an antiisraeli, propalestinian discourse. But I have to point that Avriani is the quintessential populist Greek newspaper. It started as a prosocialist newspaper during the premiership of late Andreas Papandreou but now it has a right-wing position. During the last ten years its readership is constantly declining. For me it is far more dangerous that personalities with a bigger influence and a leftist pedigree like the composer Mikis Theodorakis are overtly antisemite.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301834931888717319noreply@blogger.com